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=== How to update firmware ? ===
 
=== How to update firmware ? ===
 
1) Power on XRGB-3
 
1) Power on XRGB-3
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2) Connect USB cable to PC (type A to type B)
 
2) Connect USB cable to PC (type A to type B)
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3) Windows will automatically detect XRGB-3 and install driver
 
3) Windows will automatically detect XRGB-3 and install driver
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4) execute XRGB-3 Update Tool (if the left button "Update" is greyed then something is wrong, try to power off XRGB-3 and reconnect USB cable)
 
4) execute XRGB-3 Update Tool (if the left button "Update" is greyed then something is wrong, try to power off XRGB-3 and reconnect USB cable)
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5) clic on "Update" button  
 
5) clic on "Update" button  
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6) select firmware file to update (used format for firmware is *.x3b)
 
6) select firmware file to update (used format for firmware is *.x3b)
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7) as soon as you selected firmware, update will start automatically (DONT REMOVE POWER CABLE AND USB CABLE UNTIL IT'S FINISHED)
 
7) as soon as you selected firmware, update will start automatically (DONT REMOVE POWER CABLE AND USB CABLE UNTIL IT'S FINISHED)
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8) Power off XRGB-3
 
8) Power off XRGB-3
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9) Reset XRGB-3
 
9) Reset XRGB-3
  
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=== How to increase size of screen while using Playstation Portable ? ===
 
=== How to increase size of screen while using Playstation Portable ? ===
 
Hardware required : PSP-2000 or PSP-3000 and component cable (or D-Terminal cable)
 
Hardware required : PSP-2000 or PSP-3000 and component cable (or D-Terminal cable)
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1) connect cable
 
1) connect cable
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2) enable output in PSP menu : Settings → Connected Display Settings → Switch Video Output (Output must be set to Progressive)
 
2) enable output in PSP menu : Settings → Connected Display Settings → Switch Video Output (Output must be set to Progressive)
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3) FCPGA mode : B0 (if using B1 mode, you will not be able to use D2 zoom)
 
3) FCPGA mode : B0 (if using B1 mode, you will not be able to use D2 zoom)
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4) Screen size : D2 zoom
 
4) Screen size : D2 zoom
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to test : input quality differences ? D in 1 / D in 2 / D in 3
 
to test : input quality differences ? D in 1 / D in 2 / D in 3
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=== Does XRGB-3 support HDCP through DVI output ? ===
 
=== Does XRGB-3 support HDCP through DVI output ? ===
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=== How to enable low screen resolution ? ===
 
=== How to enable low screen resolution ? ===
 
Options → Low screen resolution → ON
 
Options → Low screen resolution → ON
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Now, XRGB-3 will be able to ouput at 320x240 (15 kHz) and 640x400 (24 kHz).
 
Now, XRGB-3 will be able to ouput at 320x240 (15 kHz) and 640x400 (24 kHz).
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Note : this option should be used only with a classic japanese PC monitor (PC-988x and X68k).
 
Note : this option should be used only with a classic japanese PC monitor (PC-988x and X68k).
  
 
=== Does XRGB-3 add input lag ? ===
 
=== Does XRGB-3 add input lag ? ===
 
If your are using B0 mode then yes (2 frames).
 
If your are using B0 mode then yes (2 frames).
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If your are using B1 mode then no.
 
If your are using B1 mode then no.
  
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More informations :
 
More informations :
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The New Definitive HDTV Lag FAQ : http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=174085
 
The New Definitive HDTV Lag FAQ : http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=174085
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fubarduck's HDTV / Video Game Lag FAQ : http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index.php?showtopic=4536
 
fubarduck's HDTV / Video Game Lag FAQ : http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index.php?showtopic=4536
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Calibration Tutorial and Troubleshooting guide for Rock Band 2 :  http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1750645%23post1750645
 
Calibration Tutorial and Troubleshooting guide for Rock Band 2 :  http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1750645%23post1750645
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HDTV Lag - The Unofficial guide : http://hdtvlag.googlepages.com/home
 
HDTV Lag - The Unofficial guide : http://hdtvlag.googlepages.com/home
  
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=== How to enable scanlines ? ===
 
=== How to enable scanlines ? ===
 
1) flash B1 firmware (v1.0) : xrgb3_lined_b1_v1_00.x3b
 
1) flash B1 firmware (v1.0) : xrgb3_lined_b1_v1_00.x3b
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2) enable B1 mode : Special → FPGA SELECT → B1
 
2) enable B1 mode : Special → FPGA SELECT → B1
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3) Power off XRGB-3
 
3) Power off XRGB-3
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4) Power on XRGB-3
 
4) Power on XRGB-3
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5) adjust scanline level : Special →  VL_H / VL_V
 
5) adjust scanline level : Special →  VL_H / VL_V
  
 
=== Scanline chart (% per level) ===
 
=== Scanline chart (% per level) ===
 
0%  = 255
 
0%  = 255
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25% = 191
 
25% = 191
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50% = 127
 
50% = 127
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75% = 63
 
75% = 63
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100% = 0
 
100% = 0
  
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=== Released firmwares ===
 
=== Released firmwares ===
 
B0 firmware(s)
 
B0 firmware(s)
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INSERT MEGA SHEET
 
INSERT MEGA SHEET
  
 
B1 firmware(s)
 
B1 firmware(s)
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INSERT SHEET
 
INSERT SHEET
  
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=== D-Terminal types ===
 
=== D-Terminal types ===
 
INSERT SHEET
 
INSERT SHEET
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Note : XRGB-3 support input sources up to D4.
 
Note : XRGB-3 support input sources up to D4.
  
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=== How to fix video distortion in B1 mode ? ===
 
=== How to fix video distortion in B1 mode ? ===
 
Your picture looks like this ?
 
Your picture looks like this ?
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INSERT IMAGE
 
INSERT IMAGE
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Then you need to fix : Special screen settings → NTSC dot clock (set to MANUAL) → NTSC dot clock manually.
 
Then you need to fix : Special screen settings → NTSC dot clock (set to MANUAL) → NTSC dot clock manually.
  
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=== Recommanded settings per source / console ===
 
=== Recommanded settings per source / console ===
 
INSERT SHEET
 
INSERT SHEET
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Note 1 : best video quality = pink color
 
Note 1 : best video quality = pink color
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Note 2 : some console need modding to be able to use RGB cables and some console have hardware limitation (ex: Dreamcast + VGA cable = not all games works).
 
Note 2 : some console need modding to be able to use RGB cables and some console have hardware limitation (ex: Dreamcast + VGA cable = not all games works).
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Note 3 : Component and SCART 21 PIN RGB cables should be the same quality but with component cable you can enable progressive scan mode for some games (Playstation 2, Gamecube, Wii, Xbox).
 
Note 3 : Component and SCART 21 PIN RGB cables should be the same quality but with component cable you can enable progressive scan mode for some games (Playstation 2, Gamecube, Wii, Xbox).
  
 
=== HDTV COMPATIBILY TEST ===
 
=== HDTV COMPATIBILY TEST ===
 
INSERT SHEET
 
INSERT SHEET
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*using DVI to HDMI cable
 
*using DVI to HDMI cable
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Note 1 : B1 mode DOES NOT works when using DVI OUTPUT.
 
Note 1 : B1 mode DOES NOT works when using DVI OUTPUT.
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Note 2 : HDTV model tested (32'') is limited to 1360x768 when using VGA input.
 
Note 2 : HDTV model tested (32'') is limited to 1360x768 when using VGA input.
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Note 3 : for some reason, the scaling signal when using XRGB-3 on a WXGA HDTV (32'') is not good, it is recommanded to use 640x480 resolution for a WXGA HDTV. Also, a larger TV should help (46/52'').
 
Note 3 : for some reason, the scaling signal when using XRGB-3 on a WXGA HDTV (32'') is not good, it is recommanded to use 640x480 resolution for a WXGA HDTV. Also, a larger TV should help (46/52'').
  

Revision as of 19:16, 11 January 2010

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Translations

Firmware translation

Firmware translation for version 2.12.

メインメニュー (Main menu)

Japanese English
アスペクト Aspect ratio
画質調整 Image settings
画面調整 Screen settings
子画面調整 PCinP settings
画面特殊設定 Special screen settings
サウンド調整 Sound settings
オプション Options
スペシャル Special

アスペクト (Aspect ratio)

Japanese English Setting Default setting
アスペクト Aspect ratio 自動 (Auto) / ノーマル (Normal) / ワイド (Wide) Auto

画質調整 (Image settings)

Japanese English Setting Default setting
明るさ Brightness 0 - 63 32
ガンマ Gamma 0 - 63 16
黒レベル Black level 0 - 255 128
鮮明度 Sharpness 0 - 31 7
Rレベル Red level 0 - 63 32
Gレベル Green level 0 - 63 32
Bレベル Blue level 0 - 63 32
Rガンマ Red gamma 0 - 63 16
Gガンマ Green gamma 0 - 63 16
Bガンマ Blue gamma 0 - 63 16
色合い Color tint 0 - 63 32
色の濃さ Color depth 0 - 63 32

画面調整 (Screen settings)

Japanese English Default setting
data L1-A data L1-B data L1-C
data L2-A data L2-B data L2-C
data L3-A data L3-B data L3-C

子画面調整 (PCinP settings)

Japanese English Default setting
data L1-A data L1-B data L1-C
data L2-A data L2-B data L2-C
data L3-A data L3-B data L3-C

画面特殊設定 (Special screen settings)

Japanese English Default setting
data L1-A data L1-B data L1-C
data L2-A data L2-B data L2-C
data L3-A data L3-B data L3-C

サウンド調整 (Sound settings)

Japanese English Default setting
data L1-A data L1-B data L1-C
data L2-A data L2-B data L2-C
data L3-A data L3-B data L3-C

オプション (Options)

Japanese English Default setting
data L1-A data L1-B data L1-C
data L2-A data L2-B data L2-C
data L3-A data L3-B data L3-C

スペシャル (Special)

Japanese English Default setting
data L1-A data L1-B data L1-C
data L2-A data L2-B data L2-C
data L3-A data L3-B data L3-C

sample (sample)

Japanese English Default setting
data L1-A data L1-B data L1-C
data L2-A data L2-B data L2-C
data L3-A data L3-B data L3-C

Remote translation

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FAQ

Why should i use XRGB-3 ?

Deinterlacing Classic Videogames (by Fudoh) : http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

short answer : XRGB-3 is perfect for old school gaming (Nes, Super Nes, PC Engine, ...) to PC / HDTV monitor. Another cool addition is the ability to play PlayStation Portable games in TRUE fullscreen. XRGB-3 can also be used as a transcoder for more recent video games consoles (Dreamcast, Gamecube, Wii, Xbox, …). XRGB-3 can be used as an upscaler but the result is not always good and you will have to deal with issues (input lag, tweaking settings, …). If you are looking for a good deinterlacer/upscaler for modern consoles, buy a DVDO Edge.

Where can i buy XRGB-3 ?

Ebay, Yahoo Japan Auctions, Solaris-Japan.

How much XRGB-3 cost ?

Official retail price is 38 640 yens.

How to reset XRGB-3 ?

1) Power off XRGB-3 (STANDBY)

2) Press "MENU" and "OK" buttons (keep pushing) then push "Power" button (unpush "MENU" and "OK").

How to update firmware ?

1) Power on XRGB-3

2) Connect USB cable to PC (type A to type B)

3) Windows will automatically detect XRGB-3 and install driver

4) execute XRGB-3 Update Tool (if the left button "Update" is greyed then something is wrong, try to power off XRGB-3 and reconnect USB cable)

5) clic on "Update" button

6) select firmware file to update (used format for firmware is *.x3b)

7) as soon as you selected firmware, update will start automatically (DONT REMOVE POWER CABLE AND USB CABLE UNTIL IT'S FINISHED)

8) Power off XRGB-3

9) Reset XRGB-3

Where can i download XRGB-3 firmwares ?

Link : http://www.micomsoft.co.jp/xrgb-3_download.htm

Important : about GAME IN input (21 pin SCART RGB)

??? (never directly use SCART Euro cable to XRGB, solutions → cable adapter or XRGB mod)

How to increase size of screen while using Playstation Portable ?

Hardware required : PSP-2000 or PSP-3000 and component cable (or D-Terminal cable)

1) connect cable

2) enable output in PSP menu : Settings → Connected Display Settings → Switch Video Output (Output must be set to Progressive)

3) FCPGA mode : B0 (if using B1 mode, you will not be able to use D2 zoom)

4) Screen size : D2 zoom

to test : input quality differences ? D in 1 / D in 2 / D in 3


Does XRGB-3 support HDCP through DVI output ?

No, XRGB-3 does not support HDCP. So, if you are using a DVI to HDMI cable to connect XRGB-3 on an HDTV (HDCP compliant), it will not works. (need confirmation)

How to enable low screen resolution ?

Options → Low screen resolution → ON

Now, XRGB-3 will be able to ouput at 320x240 (15 kHz) and 640x400 (24 kHz).

Note : this option should be used only with a classic japanese PC monitor (PC-988x and X68k).

Does XRGB-3 add input lag ?

If your are using B0 mode then yes (2 frames).

If your are using B1 mode then no.

Quick notes about HDTV lag

It is possible to test your HDTV lag with 2 games (Guitar Hero or Rock Band). Also, you will need PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 versions for testing all HD resolution (480i/480p/720p/1080i/1080p). By default, i had 60~70 ms audio lag with Guitar Hero 3. When i enabled Game Mode on my HDTV i had 0 ms lag. The problem with XRGB-3 is that in B0 mode and using upscaling it adds input lag (HDTV lag + XRGB3 lag = GAME OVER).

Frame conversion chart

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More informations :

The New Definitive HDTV Lag FAQ : http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=174085

fubarduck's HDTV / Video Game Lag FAQ : http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index.php?showtopic=4536

Calibration Tutorial and Troubleshooting guide for Rock Band 2 : http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1750645%23post1750645

HDTV Lag - The Unofficial guide : http://hdtvlag.googlepages.com/home

VGA vs DVI output

INSERT SHEET Note : the signal for DVI output is DVI-D

What are those famous scanlines, why do i need/want them ?

Scanlines Demystified (by Fudoh) : http://scanlines.hazard-city.de/

How to enable scanlines ?

1) flash B1 firmware (v1.0) : xrgb3_lined_b1_v1_00.x3b

2) enable B1 mode : Special → FPGA SELECT → B1

3) Power off XRGB-3

4) Power on XRGB-3

5) adjust scanline level : Special → VL_H / VL_V

Scanline chart (% per level)

0% = 255

25% = 191

50% = 127

75% = 63

100% = 0

INSERT SHEET In general, you should use a value between 127 (50%) and 191 (25%). Increasing % will produce a darker image.

Released firmwares

B0 firmware(s)

INSERT MEGA SHEET

B1 firmware(s)

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XRGB-3 supported output resolutions

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D-Terminal types

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Note : XRGB-3 support input sources up to D4.

Low pass filter chart (from Micomsoft)

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How to fix video distortion in B1 mode ?

Your picture looks like this ?

INSERT IMAGE

Then you need to fix : Special screen settings → NTSC dot clock (set to MANUAL) → NTSC dot clock manually.

What is FULL_HD resolution setting for ?

If set to High, seems to fix problem (no video) when using DVI output and 1920x1080 (need confirmation).

Recommanded settings per source / console

INSERT SHEET

Note 1 : best video quality = pink color

Note 2 : some console need modding to be able to use RGB cables and some console have hardware limitation (ex: Dreamcast + VGA cable = not all games works).

Note 3 : Component and SCART 21 PIN RGB cables should be the same quality but with component cable you can enable progressive scan mode for some games (Playstation 2, Gamecube, Wii, Xbox).

HDTV COMPATIBILY TEST

INSERT SHEET

  • using DVI to HDMI cable

Note 1 : B1 mode DOES NOT works when using DVI OUTPUT.

Note 2 : HDTV model tested (32) is limited to 1360x768 when using VGA input.

Note 3 : for some reason, the scaling signal when using XRGB-3 on a WXGA HDTV (32) is not good, it is recommanded to use 640x480 resolution for a WXGA HDTV. Also, a larger TV should help (46/52).

What is PCinP mode ?

??

How to use PCinP mode ?

??

How does XRGB-3 looks like ?

INSERT IMAGE

External links

Micomsoft Official Website(japanese)