Difference between revisions of "XRGB-3"

Revision as of 10:41, 12 January 2010

XRGB-3 front

XRGB-3 back

Original guide (pdf format) can be found here, but will be deleted when wiki is fully updated

Insert introduction speech ?

TO DO / NEED HELP FOR :

- fixing english typos (english is not my native language)

- improving japanese menus translation

- translating firmwares changelogs

- completing "Recommanded settings" and adding other systems (arcade pcbs, other console) ?

- anything that should be in this guide

- adding/fixing things in orange

- improving menus/summary

- shall i put this guide on some wiki or doc/pdf file is enough ? <- currently working on it

Translations

Firmware translation

Firmware translation for version 2.12.

メインメニュー (Main menu)

Japanese	English
アスペクト	Aspect ratio
画質調整	Image settings
画面調整	Screen settings
子画面調整-	PCinP settings
画面特殊設定	Special screen settings
サウンド調整	Sound settings
オプション	Options
スペシャル	Special

アスペクト (Aspect ratio)

Japanese	English	Setting	Default setting
アスペクト	Aspect ratio	自動 (Auto) / ノーマル (Normal) / ワイド (Wide)	Auto

画質調整 (Image settings)

Japanese	English	Setting	Default setting
明るさ	Brightness	0 - 63	32
ガンマ	Gamma	0 - 63	16
黒レベル	Black level	0 - 255	128
鮮明度	Sharpness	0 - 31	7
Rレベル	Red level	0 - 63	32
Gレベル	Green level	0 - 63	32
Bレベル	Blue level	0 - 63	32
Rガンマ	Red gamma	0 - 63	16
Gガンマ	Green gamma	0 - 63	16
Bガンマ	Blue gamma	0 - 63	16
色合い	Color tint ??	0 - 63	32
色の濃さ	Color depth	0 - 63	32

画面調整 (Screen settings)

Japanese	English	Setting	Default setting
出力水平位置	Output horizontal position	0 - 63	32
出力垂直位置	Ouput vertical position	0 - 63	32
水平位置	Horizontal position	0 - 63	32
垂直位置	Vertical position	0 - 63	32
水平画面比率	Horizontal screen size	0 - 63	32
垂直画面比率	Vertical screen size	0 - 63	32

子画面調整 (PCinP settings)

Japanese	English	Setting	Default setting
子画面表示	View ??	??	??
子画面サイズ	Size ??	??	??
子画面水平位置	Horizontal position ??	??	??
子画面垂直位置	Vertical position ??	??	??
子画面比率	Rate ??	??	??

画面特殊設定 (Special screen settings)

Japanese	English	Setting	Default setting
ガイドライン	Guidelines	オフ (OFF) / オン (ON)	OFF
PC 水平ドットマッチ	PC horizontal dot match	??	??
PC マッチ	PC match	??	??
PC 手動ドットクロック	PC dot clock manual	??	??
PC スキュー	PC skew	??	??
NTSCドットクロック	NTSC dot lock	標準 (STANDARD) / 手動 (MANUAL)	STANDARD
NTSC 手動ドットクロック	NTSC dot lock manual	0 - 4095	3639
NTSC AFC	NTSC AFC	自動 (AUTO) / 手動 (MANUAL)	AUTO
AFCレベル	AFC level	0 - 7	2
スクリーンサイズ	Screen size (??)	標準 (STANDARD) / アンダー (UNDERSCAN) / D2ズーム (D2 ZOOM)	STANDARD
描画方式	Drawing method	疑似インター (INTERLACED) / ノンインター (NON-INTERLACED)	INTERLACED

サウンド調整 (Sound settings)

Japanese	English	Default setting
data L1-A	data L1-B	data L1-C
data L2-A	data L2-B	data L2-C
data L3-A	data L3-B	data L3-C

オプション (Options)

Japanese	English	Setting	Default setting
D 入力2 信号方式	D in 2 INPUT signal	色差 (YUV) / セパレート (SEPERATE → RGBHV??) / 複合 (RGB)	YUV
21ピン入力信号方式	21-pin INPUT signal	色差 (YUV) / 複合 (RGB)	RGB
21ピン入力終端	21-pin INPUT termination	75 オーム (75 OHM) / 220 オーム (220 OHM)	75 OHM
V 同期ロック	V-Sync lock	オフ (OFF) / オン (ON)	ON
電源設定	Power management	スタンバイ (STANDBY) オン (ON)	STANDBY
静止	Freeze frame	オフ (OFF) / オン (ON)	ON
Y/C 分離設定	Y/C separation mode	自動 (AUTO) / ローパス (LOW PASS)	AUTO
水平同期極性	Horizontal sync polarity	スルー (PASSTHROUGH) / 反転 (INVERTED)	PASSTHROUGH
垂直同期極性	Vertical sync polarity	スルー (PASSTHROUGH) / 反転 (INVERTED)	PASSTHROUGH
低解像度設定	Low screen resolutions	オフ (OFF) / オン (ON)	OFF
data L1-A	data L1-B	data L1-C	data L1-D
data L1-A	data L1-B	data L1-C	data L1-D

スペシャル (Special)

Japanese	English	Setting	Default setting
A/Dレベル	A/D level	0 - 255	255
画面ステータス	Status screen	-	-
Firm Ver	Firmware version	CPU / FPGA 1 / FPGA 2 / FGPA 3 / FPGA 4 / CMD / OSD / PLL / PCB	-
FPGA SELECT	FPGA SELECT	B0 / B1 / B2 / B3	B0
VL_H	VL_H	0 - 255	255
VL_V	VL_V	0 - 255	255
LPF	LPF	オフ (OFF) / オン (ON)	ON
DOT_by_DOT	DOT_by_DOT	オフ (OFF) / オン (ON)	ON

Remote translation

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Released firmwares

B0 firmwares

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Version	Date	Changes	Known issues
insert coin	insert coin	insert coin	insert coin

B1 firmwares

Version	Date	Changes	Known issues
1.0	2008-05-09	Add B1 FPGA mode (Line Doubler & Transcoder)	n/a

FAQ

Why should i use XRGB-3 ?

Full answer : Deinterlacing Classic Videogames (by Fudoh)

Short answer : XRGB-3 is perfect for old school gaming (Nes, Super Nes, PC Engine, ...) to PC / HDTV monitor. Another cool addition is the ability to play PlayStation Portable games in TRUE fullscreen. XRGB-3 can also be used as a transcoder for more recent video games consoles (Dreamcast, Gamecube, Wii, Xbox, …). XRGB-3 can be used as an upscaler but the result is not always good and you will have to deal with issues (input lag, tweaking settings, …). If you are looking for a good deinterlacer/upscaler for modern consoles, buy a DVDO Edge

Where can i buy XRGB-3 ?

Try Ebay, Yahoo Japan Auctions, Solaris-Japan.

What do I need to use an XRGB-3

You need your game console, a TV/Monitor capable of receiving a VGA or DVI-D signal and appropriate cables to connect your console or SuperGUN to the XRGB-3. The best option available is using RGB-21 cables, though in some cases this is not possible and you will need to mod your console to output RGB and/or build your own custom cables. You can buy cables from the same places you could buy an XRGB-3.

The XRGB-3 has inputs for the following:

VGA
D-Terminal aka Component
RGB-21 (this is the GAME IN connector on the front)
S-Video
Composite

How much XRGB-3 cost ?

Official retail price is 38 640 yens.

How to reset XRGB-3 ?

1) Power off XRGB-3 (STANDBY)

2) Press "MENU" and "OK" buttons (keep pushing) then push "Power" button (unpush "MENU" and "OK").

How to update firmware ?

1) Power on XRGB-3

2) Connect USB cable to PC (type A to type B)

3) Windows will automatically detect XRGB-3 and install driver

4) execute XRGB-3 Update Tool (if the left button "Update" is greyed then something is wrong, try to power off XRGB-3 and reconnect USB cable)

5) clic on "Update" button

6) select firmware file to update (used format for firmware is *.x3b)

7) as soon as you selected firmware, update will start automatically (DONT REMOVE POWER CABLE AND USB CABLE UNTIL IT'S FINISHED)

8) Power off XRGB-3

9) Reset XRGB-3

Where can i download XRGB-3 firmwares ?

B0 firmware v.2.12 (Official link)

B1 firmware v.1.00 (Official link)

Important : about GAME IN input (RGB-21)

Never directly use SCART (europe standard) to XRGB since the pinout is different to the RGB-21 (japanese standard) and damage might result due to voltage applied on signal lines.

Solutions :

use RGB-21 cables
use SCART cables but you will not to make them "compatible"
- solution 1 : buy a SCART to RGB-21 adapter
  
  SCART to RGB-21 adapter
- solution 2 : mod your SCART cable to comply with RGB-21 Japanese 21-pin RGB connector (by GameSX)
- solution 3 : mod your XRGB-3 RGB-21 input to accept SCART cable
  
  XRGB-3 JPN to EU SCART modification (by Konsolkongen)

List of genuine RGB-21 consoles and official cables

Super Nintendo (SHVC-010)
PlayStation, PS one, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 (SCPH-1050)
Saturn (HSS-0109)
Neo Geo, Neo Geo CD (FCG-9)

Interesting link to translate ? : http://rgbcharmer.kt.fc2.com/rgb-junsei-cable.htm

How to make RGB cables : Game Console RGB SCART Cable Diagrams (by Tim Worthington)

Note (to removed, add to other section) : RGB-21 = japanese standard / SCART = european standard

How to increase size of screen while using Playstation Portable ?

Hardware required : PSP-2000 or PSP-3000 and component cable (or D-Terminal cable)

1) connect cable

2) enable output in PSP menu : Settings → Connected Display Settings → Switch Video Output (Output must be set to Progressive)

3) FCPGA mode : B0 (if using B1 mode, you will not be able to use D2 zoom)

4) Screen size : D2 zoom

to test : input quality differences ? D in 1 / D in 2 / D in 3

Does XRGB-3 support HDCP through DVI output ?

No, XRGB-3 does not support HDCP. So, if you are using a DVI to HDMI cable to connect XRGB-3 on an HDTV (HDCP compliant), it will not works. (need confirmation)

How to enable low screen resolution ?

Options → Low screen resolution → ON

Now, XRGB-3 will be able to ouput at 320x240 (15 kHz) and 640x400 (24 kHz).

Note : this option should be used only with a classic japanese PC monitor (PC-988x and X68k).

Does XRGB-3 add input lag ?

If your are using B0 mode then yes (2 frames). maybe we should add some exemples?

If your are using B1 mode then no.

VGA vs DVI output

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Note : the signal for DVI output is DVI-D.

What are those famous scanlines, why do i need/want them ?

Scanlines Demystified (by Fudoh)

How to enable scanlines ?

1) flash B1 firmware (v1.0) : xrgb3_lined_b1_v1_00.x3b

2) enable B1 mode : Special → FPGA SELECT → B1

3) Power off XRGB-3

4) Power on XRGB-3

5) adjust scanline level : Special → VL_H (horizontal) or VL_V (vertical)

Scanline chart

%	97	94	91	88	85	82	78	75	72	69	66	63	59	56	53	50	47	44	41	37	34	31	28	25	23	19	15	12	9	6	3	0
level	7	15	23	31	39	47	55	63	71	79	87	95	103	111	119	127	135	143	151	159	167	175	183	191	199	207	215	223	231	239	247	255

In general, you should use a value between 127 (50%) and 191 (25%). Increasing percent will produce a darker image.

XRGB-3 supported output resolutions

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D-Terminal types

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Note : XRGB-3 support input sources up to D4.

Low pass filter chart from Micomsoft

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How to fix screen distortion in B1 mode ?

Your screen looks like this ?

scren distortion

Then you need to fix : Special screen settings → NTSC dot clock (set to MANUAL) → NTSC dot clock manually.

What is FULL_HD resolution setting for ?

If set to High, seems to fix problem (no video) when using DVI output and 1920x1080.(need confirmation)

Recommanded settings

Console / Arcade PCB	Cable	FPGA mode	LPF	Scanline	Sharpness	Extra settings (can help to fix problems)
Capcom CPS-1	RGB-21 via SuperGUN	B1	OFF	[scanline chart]	?	21 pin input termination : 220 OHM
Capcom CPS-2	RGB-21 via SuperGUN	B1	OFF	[scanline chart]	?	21 pin input termination : 220 OHM
Dreamcast	S-VIDEO RGB-21 VGA	? ? B0	ON? ON? OFF	? ? -	? ? ?	? ? D in 2 INPUT signal : RGB
Master System	RGB-21	B1	OFF	[scanline chart]	?	?
Mega-CD	COMPOSITE RGB-21	B1 B1	ON ON	[scanline chart]	? ?	? ?
Megadrive	COMPOSITE RGB-21	B1 B1	ON ON	[scanline chart]	? ?	? ?
Neo Geo AES	RGB-21	B1	OFF	[scanline chart]	?	NTSC AFC : MANUAL / AFC level : 4
Neo Geo MVS	RGB-21 via SuperGUN	B1	OFF	[scanline chart]	?	NTSC AFC : MANUAL / AFC level : 4 21 pin input termination : 220 OHM
Nes	COMPOSITE RGB-21	B1 B1	ON ON	[scanline chart]	? ?	Y/C separation set : LOW PASS ?
Nintendo 64	COMPOSITE S-VIDEO RGB-21	B1 B1	ON ON	[scanline chart]	? ?	? ?
PC Engine CD	COMPOSITE RGB-21	B1 B1	ON ON	[scanline chart]	? ?	? NTSC AFC : MANUAL / AFC level : 0~7 (more info?) 21 pin input termination : 220 OHM
PlayStation	COMPOSITE RGB-21	B1 B1	ON ON	[scanline chart]	0? 0?	? ?
PlayStation 2	COMPOSITE RGB-21 COMPONENT	B1 B1 B?	ON ON	[scanline chart]	0? 0?	? ?
PlayStation Portable	COMPONENT	B0	OFF	-	0~6	DOT_by_DOT : ON NTSC AFC : MANUAL / AFC level : 0 Aspect Ratio : Wide
Saturn	COMPOSITE S-VIDEO RGB-21	B1 B1 B1	ON ON ON	[scanline chart]	0? 0?	? ?
Super Nes	COMPOSITE S-VIDEO RGB-21	B1 B1 B1	ON ON ON	[scanline chart]	? ? ?	? ? ?

Which cable should i choose for the best quality ?

HDMI -> VGA -> COMPONENT / SCART RGB -> S-VIDEO -> COMPOSITE (more details?, maybe talking about official / custom / no name cables ?)

Note 1 : D-Terminal = Component

Note 2 : I noticed that with some consoles, S-Video is as good as SCART RGB (ex : Super Nes / Saturn)

What is PCinP mode ?

??

How to use PCinP mode ?

??

Other

HDTV COMPATIBILY TEST

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using DVI to HDMI cable

Note 1 : B1 mode DOES NOT works when using DVI OUTPUT.

Note 2 : HDTV model tested (32) is limited to 1360x768 when using VGA input.

Note 3 : for some reason, the scaling signal when using XRGB-3 on a WXGA HDTV (32) is not good, it is recommanded to use 640x480 resolution for a WXGA HDTV. Also, a larger TV should help (46/52).

Quick notes about HDTV lag

It is possible to test your HDTV lag with 2 games (Guitar Hero or Rock Band). Also, you will need PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 versions for testing all HD resolution (480i/480p/720p/1080i/1080p). By default, i had 60~70 ms audio lag with Guitar Hero 3. When i enabled Game Mode on my HDTV i had 0 ms lag. The problem with XRGB-3 is that in B0 mode and using upscaling it adds input lag (HDTV lag + XRGB3 lag = GAME OVER).

Frame conversion chart

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More informations :

The New Definitive HDTV Lag FAQ

fubarduck's HDTV / Video Game Lag FAQ

Calibration Tutorial and Troubleshooting guide for Rock Band 2

HDTV Lag - The Unofficial guide

External links

Micomsoft Official Website

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 ! scope=col | Japanese
 ! scope=col | English
+! scope=col | Setting
 ! scope=col | Default setting
+|-
+|D 入力2 信号方式
+|D in 2 INPUT signal
+|色差 (YUV) / セパレート (SEPERATE → RGBHV??) / 複合 (RGB)
+|YUV
+|-
+|21ピン入力信号方式
+|21-pin INPUT signal
+|色差 (YUV) / 複合 (RGB)
+|RGB
+|-
+|21ピン入力終端
+|21-pin INPUT termination
+|75 オーム (75 OHM) / 220 オーム (220 OHM)
+|75 OHM
+|-
+|V 同期ロック
+|V-Sync lock
+|オフ (OFF) / オン (ON)
+|ON
+|-
+|電源設定
+|Power management
+|スタンバイ (STANDBY) オン (ON)
+|STANDBY
+|-
+|静止
+|Freeze frame
+|オフ (OFF) / オン (ON)
+|ON
+|-
+|Y/C 分離設定
+|Y/C separation mode
+|自動 (AUTO) / ローパス (LOW PASS)
+|AUTO
+|-
+|水平同期極性
+|Horizontal sync polarity
+|スルー (PASSTHROUGH) / 反転 (INVERTED)
+|PASSTHROUGH
+|-
+|垂直同期極性
+|Vertical sync polarity
+|スルー (PASSTHROUGH) / 反転 (INVERTED)
+|PASSTHROUGH
+|-
+|低解像度設定
+|Low screen resolutions
+|オフ (OFF) / オン (ON)
+|OFF
 |-
 |data L1-A
 |data L1-B
 |data L1-C
+|data L1-D
 |-
-|data L2-A
+|data L1-A
-|data L2-B
+|data L1-B
-|data L2-C
+|data L1-C
-|-
+|data L1-D
-|data L3-A
-|data L3-B
-|data L3-C
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Difference between revisions of "XRGB-3"

Revision as of 10:41, 12 January 2010

Contents

Translations

Firmware translation

メインメニュー (Main menu)

アスペクト (Aspect ratio)

画質調整 (Image settings)

画面調整 (Screen settings)

子画面調整 (PCinP settings)

画面特殊設定 (Special screen settings)

サウンド調整 (Sound settings)

オプション (Options)

スペシャル (Special)

Remote translation

Released firmwares

B0 firmwares

B1 firmwares

FAQ

Why should i use XRGB-3 ?

Where can i buy XRGB-3 ?

What do I need to use an XRGB-3

How much XRGB-3 cost ?

How to reset XRGB-3 ?

How to update firmware ?

Where can i download XRGB-3 firmwares ?

Important : about GAME IN input (RGB-21)

How to increase size of screen while using Playstation Portable ?

Does XRGB-3 support HDCP through DVI output ?

How to enable low screen resolution ?

Does XRGB-3 add input lag ?

VGA vs DVI output

What are those famous scanlines, why do i need/want them ?

How to enable scanlines ?

Scanline chart

XRGB-3 supported output resolutions

D-Terminal types

Low pass filter chart from Micomsoft

How to fix screen distortion in B1 mode ?

What is FULL_HD resolution setting for ?

Recommanded settings

Which cable should i choose for the best quality ?

What is PCinP mode ?

How to use PCinP mode ?

Other

HDTV COMPATIBILY TEST

Quick notes about HDTV lag

External links

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